Democracy Reform in Egypt a Laughing Matter?

Sunday, March 25, 2007

5 comments
So apparently Condi is urging Egypt to reform its democracy. I guess she's insinuating that Egyptian democracy is a joke. And aside from quotes like the following, I'm not sure where she's getting such ideas.
[The Egyptian] government just declared that it won't allow or tolerate any demonstration against the constitutional amendments in order to stop those opposition people from "delaying, opposing and stalling the democratic process".

5 Comments:

Blogger Mohanned Al-arabiat said...

Dave,
The US understood how we "arabs" think, and thank god they did at last. The democracy that you have in your mind is not for here, look at what happened in iraq..Anyway It is just as I told you, by the way lets say that jordan at one point became like iraq, they will come and hunt me down just because I said some stuff that someone didn't like...
I would avoid talking about this stuff if I were you, I am serious, we arabs will never get it..

3/26/2007 6:46 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

Mohanned (see, I spelled it correctly this time),

I assure you that the US government (and 99% of all Americans) have no idea how Arabs think. (Inversely, 99% of all Arabs have no idea how Americans think, either.) And I agree with you, American-style democracy cannot work in such a culture. There are just too many barriers.

That's not to say that democracy in another form cannot exist in the Arab world. I am optimistic that it can.

As for the post, I was being facetious. The Egyptian government's lack of tolerance for those opposed to its "democratic process" was anything but democratic. They're just too dumb to realize it.

3/26/2007 9:55 PM  
Blogger Mohanned Al-arabiat said...

Dave:
You are the typical optimistic american:)
Look,the people that call for democracy aren't interested in my opinion or yours, democracy for them is a tool to rule, once they rule, democracy will be burried, thanks to Mr. Bushs policy and the media, extremesim is on the rise, and they are winning votes and masses because of his dump policy. Dave, general abu zaid said it, it should be 20% military and 80% political and economic, it must be a war to win the hearts and minds of people.

You can check my blog and see how I am attacked because I have some thoughts that I talk about, I am being accused to be "whites man ass kisser" "shove your nose in uncle sams ass", why do you think they use these arguments to attack me? They are the same people asking for democracy, can you see the pattern here..
this will take forever for me to explain, but you got my point..
Good luck man..
Mohanned by the way means the sword:)

3/26/2007 11:10 PM  
Blogger Firas said...

Well Bush administration (rather saying: The AMERICANS) invaded Ayraq for the following reason(s):

1. Terrorism- 9/11 (Folks there hate us, Saddam support AlQaida, payback is a .... etc)
2. After they couldn't BS any link, since Saddam's regime was secular and didn't like Islamists, they talked about WMD that would kill millions of innocent people
3. After Iraq was invaded in 2 weeks (so much for Saddam unbelievably strong army) and no WMD showed up, Bush started talking about Iraq the model, Iraq the beacon,democracy, the whole mess is for a good cause....etc

Here is the point: Bush's administration does not give a .... about democracy! For instance, Pakistan funded,trained, supported, harbored the Talibans and Al-Qadia, most hijackers were Saudis national, the US backed the Islamic courts in Somalia, there are tens of crazy, aggressive and brutal regimes out there, yet they wouldn't give a rat's ass. It just happens that Iraq, Iran are floating over OIL.

You think Bush will be happy when 18 million Saudis (good portion living in poverty) learn that they can control, benefit from their oil? No! That's why their education system suck.

Anyways, democracy (did) exist in the Arab world (such a broad term), that was before 1970.
Bush pressing for democracy in the Arab world is a big scam! In Jordan, decades ago,leftists won the elections and formed the government, then they were called infidels and traitors,and ikhwan were on the loose while leftists were imprisoned (you know, fight commies with Islamists).

Why Bush is pressing for democracy when everyone knows that the Islamists will take over the whole Arab world (already did in Iraq,Kuwait,Bahrain,Palestine) unless they want to?

Statically speaking, most terrorists are(were) Saudis,Pakistanis, Europeans(born,raised in Euorpe) so....
Anyways I heart Condi :D

Your spelling check could loosen up and give us more freedom!

3/27/2007 12:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give the people freedom it might be rough in the beginning but they have the right to live free. A good example is South Africa and not Iraq which has about 150,000 GI’s in the mix.

Egyptians are not like Iraqis there isn’t a great divide the majority of the people are Hanafi Sunnis so from that aspect it is no problem. Egyptians have never been violent in their recent history. The French came Ahalan wa Sahlan, The English came Ahlan wa sahlan, the monacrcy came ahlan wa sahlan, socialism came ahlan wa sahlan and so on.

Democracy in Egypt would be a beautiful thing and the greatest example to the entire Arab world. Socially Egypt is one of the most liberal Arab nations - sex is abundant beer is okay – really the only ingredient missing is democracy - some people are religious so what – they coexist in Egypt

There aren’t tribal alliances like in many Arab countries. Cairo a city of approximately 25mil the heart of Egypt is very cosmopolitan and all anyone cares about is making money and having a good time.

Viva Democracy!

3/27/2007 1:55 AM  

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